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Wednesday, May 18, 2005

What's the matter with Kansas?

I don't know, but Iowa sure has the right idea:

University of Iowa to offer pornography course

You know, all that corn might come in handy. I don't know about the soybeans, though. But at least if the students are busy studying porn, they won't be out fucking mules.


  • At 3:57 AM, Blogger Joe said…

    Fair point about the mules. But seriously, though- should a public university really spend money on this class? I don't think so. Call me a conservative, but I think this a complete waste of the state's and the unversity's money, which could otherwise be used for something that is actually educational.

  • At 10:28 AM, Blogger Michael J. West said…

    I'm with Joe on this one. Even the way the class is described sounds like a silly, overly sensationalized way to examine issues in the media which aren't particularly important.

    Besides, just about every Freshman boy, living independently for the first time, has done some sort of independent study on pornography. :-)

  • At 11:47 AM, Blogger Boinkette said…

    Well, Joe we have a class on Sex and Culture--is this that different? I do think it sounds overhyped, though. Considering they don't actually get to watch any porn in the class, most of the students will probably find it a let-down.

  • At 11:52 AM, Blogger Boinkette said…

    And Mike, I'm sure you're right that most freshmen boys have already done their own independent studies...they probably won't be too happy when they actually have to write papers about it! :-D

  • At 12:01 PM, Blogger Joe said…

    Well, Sex and Culture is a legitimate topic. However, pornography really isn't, and I criticized Brandeis, too, when they used tons of student events money to bring in a burlesque dancer during "Vagina Week" (which, btw, I found a bit ridiculous, too). However, at least Brandeis is a private school-with Iowa, it's state money being spent on these classes.

    I'm trying as hard as I can not to sound like radical cleric Dobson or Ayatollah Falwell, but forgive me if I think this is a lousy way to spend public educational funds.

    After all, "independent study" is better anyway. :-)

  • At 12:42 PM, Blogger Boinkette said…

    It's ok, I understand...I'll only start worrying about you when you start claiming that random cartoon characters are promoting a homosexual agenda.

    The burlesque workshop was a blast, though. It was good exercise and a lot more fun than going to the gym and hopping on the elliptical, which was what I would have done otherwise. If we can have a Conservative Coming Out Week, why not a Vagina Week?

    But you're right that Iowa is a state university, and taxpayers shouldn't really have to be paying for their young'uns to be studying porn when everyone is already "studying" porn. And of course "independent study" is better anyway--having to actually discuss and write papers about some things just takes all the fun out of them, huh? :-)

  • At 12:47 PM, Blogger Boinkette said…

    P.S. I'm tempted to make some kind of pun on "trying as hard as I can," but I won't, I won't!

  • At 2:55 PM, Blogger Michael J. West said…

    I don't know that this is offensive, per se--well, there are no doubt many people who would be offended by it, but I personally don't find it offensive--I just think it's useless. If you can't use the appropriate "study aids" in discussion of pornography, well, then your discussion stays in the abstract: you're talking about a vague, undefined notion. The usual warhorse is "I know it when I see it," but if you're not looking at anything in the class, then how do you ever know what in the Hell you're debating?

  • At 2:58 PM, Blogger Michael J. West said…

    Oh. As for the people who WILL get offended? Again, Joe's right: Iowa is a public uiversity. At Brandeis, or any other private school, the administration can fairly say, "You don't like it? Don't give any money to our program." But at a state university the people of the state HAVE to give money to the program, like it or not, and that means they should have a say.

    So if they were, hypothetically, to protest such a course and demand its removal from the curriculum...well, they'd have a point. They're the ones financing the curriculum.

  • At 8:22 PM, Blogger Michael J. West said…

    Excuse my D.C.-bound ignorance but...what's Vagina Week?

  • At 8:46 PM, Blogger Joe said…

    In short, radical college campus PC bullshit.


    Dunno, really... Kinda ignored it when it was happening. How would you describe it, Laura?

  • At 11:16 PM, Blogger Boinkette said…

    Ah, well, I liked was a bit over the top, though.

    Basically, Mike: it was a week sponsored by the feminist group on campus (and maybe a few other groups--I don't remember), which involved a bunch of women-oriented activities, including the burlesque strip-dance workshop, which rocked; a workshop about female orgasms, which turned out to be more about sex toys, but was amusing; a speaker about domestic violence in the Jewish community; and culminated in the annual performance of the Vagina Monologues.

    I thought it was a lot of fun, and I loved the hot pink "Vagina Fest" posters all over campus--I think it's a good idea to try to make people more comfortable and more knowledgeable about those kids of things, and the only place you can get away with it is a college campus, so why not? The feminist group on campus does a lot of serious stuff as well.

  • At 6:50 AM, Blogger Michael J. West said…

    Oh, that kind of stuff. In that case I can totally get on board, except for the sex-toys bit. I actually seem to remember enjoying those kind of forums.

    Joe....if I were in a cynical mood, I'd say that "radical college campus PC bullshit" may be the ultimate redundant statement for all time. But I got a job offer yesterday so no cynicism here. ;-)

  • At 1:58 PM, Blogger Boinkette said…

    Hey, "radical college campus PC bullshit" is still better than the real world. :-)

    Congrats on your job offer!


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